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Top 10 myths in Malaysia Numismatic

They're many myth out there about Malaysia coins and banknotes. People want to believe that myth mostly because they don't have enough knowledge about Malaysia Numismatic or their friends told them about it. Some of the story make this hobbies interesting to non-collector but most of the myth will make you lose money/profit in the end. Its up to you to believe the reality or the myth but in the end, you need to to go back to reality since most real collector will not follow any myth story. We just listen and laugh out laud in our heart because we knew the myth ain't real. I don't asked you to believe what I am sharing in here but this are the top 10 myths in Malaysia Numismatic.

Merdeka 2011 coin

1. Sa-puloh ringgit watermark agong banknote.
I had been talking about these so many time before. They're also people who stupidly show her face with a sapuloh watermark agong and a fake Malaysia Numismatic Society certificate, you can read it here; Fake MNS Certificate. They're no Sa-puloh ringgit watermark agong banknote issued by Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM). The real Sa-puloh ringgit banknote came with a tiger watermark. The notes that you can see in some of the Malaysia mystic blog are fake/counterfeit banknotes. They're also real Sapuloh/sepuluh banknote with a fake Agong watermark out there. They're using some chemical to remove the original tiger watermark on the banknote and print a new agong watermark. If a real collector look at the notes, you will instantly knew that it is a fake watermark. They're also sapuloh agong with UV light watermark, I already explain it in here; SaPuloh Watermark agong UV light. They remove the tiger watermark from the sapuloh banknote and then they print a new watermark agong UV light, some just print the UV light on top of the tiger watermark since you can only see the watermark with UV light.

2. RM500 signed by Tun Ismail Mohd Ali?
Few years back, they're many people who are asking me about RM500 signed by Tun Ismail Mohd Ali. They said only a few piece of the notes exist and it is a very rare piece. When I post my RM500 for sale, many people contact me about that notes. Even when I said to them that they're no RM500 in Tun Ismail Mohd Ali era, they keep on insisting to meet me and want to see that notes. Most of them are just a middlemen who are trying to make an instant profit because someone said they will pay a big amount of money for that notes. Some even argue with me why they're sa-ribu banknotes exist but BNM don't print any RM500. Some even told me that BNM don't want people know RM500 by Ismail exist because the price will be going up if everyone are looking for it.

3. 1972 Malaysia sen coins.
They're no coins minted by BNM in 1972, you can read and check about it in my post; No issue Malaysia coin according to year (duit syiling tiada keluaran mengikut tahun). If you found any coins in that year in any blog, its a fake/counterfeit. They either altered an original coin or make a new coin. You can even do it yourself with a photoshop software, you can read it in my 10 sen 1972 post. Most of the fake coins are offered by people who involved in mistic/shaman (perbomohan). Some even dare to claim that the coins came from sky or "alam bunian" and it promise to give the owner instant profit. Most of the time, the price of the coins can go to 5 figure.

4. Ali Abul Hassan RM1 side sign.
I don't know why people can believe this notes even exist since they remove Zeti signature (you can still see the zeti print mark under close inspection on the notes) and print Ali Abul Hassan (Aishah) signature on that notes. I know one friend bought this notes for RM15,000.00. It is a waste of money since that notes are fake because BNM never issued any side sign RM1 with Ali Abul signature. Another funny thing is that BNM never take any action with these counterfeiter. Maybe because the buyer themselves never report it to police or BNM. It is a huge profit for them because it only cost them below RM10 to make the counterfeit banknotes.

5. Duit Syiling freemason-New Malaysia 10 sen 2012
Some stupid bloggers out there are sharing a story about new Malaysian 10 sen coin motif on the reverse look like a Star of David in Israel flag. The funny thing is that they altered the coin motif to make it look like Star of David. It show how they are eagerly want to create a controversy from nothing. BNM has released a statement that it is the motive of the Orang Asli (taken from a form of decorative woven Aboriginal Malaysia), you can read more about their statement here; BNM reply on new duit syiling issue.

6. They're gold in 50 sen 1967, 1968, 1969.
Funny but they're also rumour out there that they're gold in 50 sen 1967, 1968, 1969. That is why the price of some of the coins can go up to thousand ringgit. The rumour certainly came from non-collector who don't know anything about numismatic. They're no gold in 50 sen security edge and the reality is collector pay a high price for a coin without a security edge for that particular years because they're hard to find/rare. If they're gold in that coin will you think the buyer gain any profit paying a high amount of money for that coin?

7. RM50 Merdeka can be exchange for RM100 at Bank Negara.
They're also rumour that RM50 with Merdeka logo can be exchange for RM100 at the nearest commercial banks or Bank Negara. The truth is you can only get face value if you want to exchange old banknotes at any Bank Negara branches, you can read it here; Tukar duit lama di BNM. Many non-collector believe the logo is special and it can give them a high return. If you want to get a profit from the RM50 merdeka, keep UNC notes and wait for 50 years. I believe it will be a rare item during that time especially if BNM make another RM50 100th years Merdeka banknote. Find a notes with a match number pair and you can earn more then the notes face value. For now, you can only exchange it with face value but most of the time, bank will not accept exchange since the notes still can be use.

8. Security edge parliament 50 sen other then 1967, 1968, 1969.
Other then 1967, 1968, 1969 50 sen coin, all the other parliament 50 sen coins edge have a "Bank Negara Malaysia" lettering. They're using the original coin and altered it to make the security edge. The coin size and weight will be decreasing from the original coins. They're also fake parliament coins with a security edge for non issue years.

9. Malaysia AA banknotes can get RM300.
When I am in Sabah a few months ago, they're people who telling me story that the price for AA prefix Malaysia banknotes can get you RM300 a piece. That person show me a bundle of his Malaysia banknote with AA prefix. Most of the banknotes are in circulated condition. I told him that people paying RM300 for a premier set of new 4th series Malaysia banknote issued by BNM for RM300. The notes came with AA prefix (only RM50 with AAA prefix) with the same number. You can get a high price for AA prefix notes if you can get a UNC condition notes but the price will not go to RM300 a piece yet.

10. 20 sen 2002 get RM2000.
BNM via its Official Facebook has issued a statement that the rumour about 20 sen 2002 get RM2000 is not true. You can read it in my post; 20 sen 2002 get RM2000. The coin exist but the rumour about exchange it for RM2000 certainly not true. I am not sure if the rumour about this exist out there since I never saw anyone come to my blog via "20 sen 2002" keyword. The only source I can find is the statement by BNM.

Online dealer kill this hobby

"Can you tell all your small time online dealer to watch their price? Don't sell at a very low price then current market price. Some of them even flood the market with to many same item at the same time. The price of the item will drop you know. For example the RM50 commonwealth games commemorative banknote, Malaysia Central Bank (BNM) issued price is RM80 but some of the dealer sell them at RM90. What do they think? They're killing the market and killing this hobbies. They just want to take RM10 profit? They don't need to pay for petrol and stuff? Please make them understand, selling is not about getting profit. You also need to sell at market price so other dealer don't mad at you. Other people work a full time job selling coin and banknote, you know!"

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This is not the first time a dealer complaint to me about small time online dealer way of doing business, I think this year its already over half a dozen time. That is a huge amount considering I am not always meeting them. I know I cannot do anything about it since it is other people business. I can advice them but I don't think it will stop. They're many small time online dealer out there and not everyone of them read my blog. I remember when I start selling online in 2003, I am also doing the same thing but at that day, they're not many sellers who are doing online business for numismatic. At that day, I can find a RM10 item and sell them for RM20 on the same day. I can easily find a cheap stock since they're not many competition around. Except for my Penang sifu who are keep on advising me don't sell my item at a very low price, they're no other people who are making any noise about it. That is almost 10 years ago, today the scenario has change. We have over thousands of people who are selling numismatic related item online. Some of them just want to sell their item fast, even if it mean they don't get any profit from their sell.

Why small time online dealers are killing this hobby?

1. Selling items below market price.
This will make the price for certain item dropping or not moving up especially if they're many people selling the same item at the same price at the same time. When people knew the price of the item is more cheaper online, they will not be buying them offline. Its good for buyer since they can buy item cheaper online but many other sellers are not happy with below the market price sellers.

2. Flooding the market.
Imagine if all the online sellers selling RM1 AAH CR Prefix at the same time, what will happen? Buyer will have many choice and price war will started. Some seller will also sell their item cheaper because they cannot stand to hold their money to long on that item. Buyer will also have the power to bargain since many RM1 CR around. For the past few months, we can see many RM1 CR Ali Abul Hassan start coming into market. One day this will happen if sellers don't control themself.

3. Grading issue.
I had seen and experience many of this small time dealer doing a very poor grading. Counterfeit items are selling as original. Banknote at a fine condition sold as a Uncirculated notes and many more issues that are related to grading. In numismatic, grading is a very important aspect that buyer need to consider for their collection. You will be disappointed when you received the item below your expectation, right?

4. Fraud seller.
Lets don't forget about torn among the roses. I have received many complaint from my buyer about sellers who don't send their item. It make them afraid to do online business. For me, this is fraud and fraud is a crime. Just report them to police and inform me, I will share their information online. Hopefully, their potential victim can find that information online and the fraud will stop.

5. Using someone Identity to do online sell.
I think it is a trend nowadays that we can find a "girl seller" for numismatic product. Most of the buyer for numismatic are guy and they can easily trust a girl because of the sense of fun buying from a girl and almost all of them think girl will never cheat. Its a good marketing strategy but a non ethical practice. Yes.., they're real girl sellers out there but many fake "girl sellers" too.

6. They think selling online don't need to follow Malaysia law.
Many of these small time dealer think they're invisible and they can make their own rules in online sell. They don't care about grading, sell etiquette or even refund their buyer when they do mistake. Online selling also mean buyer and seller are protected by Malaysia law. If they're any dispute regarding any sell, you can also forward your case to Tribunal for Consumer Claims Malaysia under Ministry of Domestic Trade And Consumer Affairs.

Coins banknotes shop in Selangor

As requested by some of my readers, today I am sharing a list of coins and banknotes dealers in Selangor. You can find coin, paper money, banknote, accessories (album, Tweezers, Magnifiers, Microscopes, holder, capsules, cutter, watermark detectors, uv test lamp etc), stamp, Postal History, Documents, Phone cards, Posters, Ang Pow, China antique ware & Various Collectibles. This list is for shop that you can find in Selangor, for Kuala Lumpur, you can try find it at my Klang Valley coin dealer list. If you know any other coin shop that is in Selangor, feel free to contact me. I will try my best to visit all the shop in my list and share my experience with everyone in this blog. Please share this with your friends and family but don't forget to mention where do you get this list from. Thank you.

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Trignometric Sdn Bhd.
Address: Lot 327, Amcorp Mall, 18 Jalan Persiaran Barat, Off Jalan Timur, Petaling Jaya, 46050 Selangor.
Tel: 603-79579566
Fax: 603-79579568
Website: www.3833.com

Address: 58, Jalan SS14/2, 47500 Subang Jaya, Selangor.
Tel: +60-179796337 (better called him before you make a visit)
E-mail: dniew33@streamyx.com, dicksonniew@gmail.com

SLCollectors shop
Address: Ground Floor, G063A, Zone C, Millennium Square, Jalan 14/1, Section 14, 46100, Petaling Jaya, Selangor, West Malaysia.
Tel:012-2008316 (better called him before you make a visit)
Business Hour: 2pm-6pm (Mon-Sun -including Public Holidays)
Email: slang1957@gmail.com
Website: slcollectors.com

PJ Auctioneers Sdn Bhd
L326 Amcorp Mall, 18 Persiaran Barat,
46000 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor, Malaysia
Tel: 03-758 3177
Fax: 03-7575792
Mobile: 010-2215233
Business time: 12pm to 7pm. Closed on Monday & Tuesday.

Acme Hobbies & Collectibles
4 th Floor, Plaza Metro Kajang,
Section 7, Jalan Tun Abdul Aziz.
43000 Kajang, Selangor.
Tel : 019-252 3126 (Mr. Leong).

Ng Coin, Stamps Curios Centre
Owner: Ng Ah Lee (HP: +6012-9354885).
Address: No. 2-7, 2nd Floor, Plaza Metro, Jalan Meru ,41050 Klang, Selangor D.E.
Tel: +603-33416959
Fax: +603-33413710

Must Read Coin Card Posts

I am sorry for the late post for my blogtalk challenge; Malaysia coin cards. Many thing happened in a blogger world lately and I need to learn many new thing. For instance, my other coin blog (malaysiancoin.com) cannot be viewed. I need to learn how to do the setting myself because my hosting provider want to charge me just for a simple thing. Its like a coin card scenario in Malaysia before, nobody don't want to look at the thing when their price are just below RM20 a piece including me. Most of us were thinking one copy of the cards are enough, why do I need to bother buying more if the price don't going anywhere. Thanks to all the genius dealers who play some control with the market, the price going up. Some of the coin card prices had been going up pretty fast.

coin card

Back to my blogtalk challenge, only one blogger dare to take the challenge. Most of other Malaysian numismatic blogger just keep on doing the same thing, sharing their collection online. You cannot go anywhere in the blogger world if you keep doing that. You need to share knowledge not just collection. We have many numismatic bloggers in Malaysia but most of you will stop blogging after a few months, I had seen blogger come and go. In my opinion, blogging is the important way to promote coin collecting hobbies. Nowadays, most people will search for information online, most of them don't know that a book exist. :D

Mr. Danny from Mr. Danny's Coin and Banknotes Collection wrote an article about Hockey World Cup 2002 coin card expensive? He is from Sabah and sharing how he a little bit shock when hearing his friends online said the card price at RM150 in Peninsular Malaysia. He has been searching for the cards almost every time when he visit coin shop and cannot find any for sell. He is lucky when he found out that a shop in Kompleks Karamunsing is selling the cards for RM50. Most probably that shop don't know the market price of that cards. It will be a great post if Mr. Danny share some pictures and information of the said shop because I knew in Sabah, most collectors only knew two place to find their collection; Wisma Merdeka and Gaya Street Tamu.

In my other blog, Malaysiancoin.com, I share Market price of Malaysia coin cards:
  • 1989-Malaysia 2nd series coins=Bahasa Melayu (RM12)-English (RM25)
  • 2000-Thomas-Uber Cup=RM110
  • 2000-Bandaraya Shah Alam=RM450
  • 2001-Sukan SEA XXI (Sea Games)=RM30
  • 2002-10th Men's Hockey World Cup=RM150
  • 2002-Installation of XII Yang di-Pertuan Agong=RM75
  • 2002-45 years merdeka=RM50
  • 2003-Non-Aligned Movement (NAM)=RM75
  • 2003-Langkawi International Maritime & Aerospace=RM90
  • 2003-Endangered Species-Land Animal series (12 coins)=RM210
  • 2003-10th Organization of the Islamic Conference summit (OIC)=RM45
  • 2004-100 years of Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra Al-Haj.=RM50
  • 2005-The 30th annual Meeting of the Islamic Development Bank (IDB)=RM18
  • 2005-Endangered Species-Bird series (12 coins)=RM330
  • 2005-11th ASEAN Summit=RM48
  • 2006-Songket Seni Warisan Agung-The Regal heritage=RM38
  • 2006-50th Years of Felda=RM38
  • 2006-Endangered Species-Marine Animal & Reptiles series (12 coins)=RM280
  • 2006-50th Years of Universiti Teknologi Mara=RM130
  • 2006-Rancangan Malaysia ke Sembilan (RMK 9)=RM110
  • 2007-200 years police force=RM180
  • 2007-Installation of XIII Yang di-Pertuan Agong=RM80
  • 2007-50 years Merdeka=RM68
  • 2008-50th Royal Malaysia Air Force anniversary (RMAF)=RM45
  • 2008-100 years St. John Ambulans=RM58
  • 2009-50th Bank Negara Malaysia anniversary=RM60
  • 2009-International Year of Astronomy 2009=RM38
  • 2009-75th Royal Malaysian Navy anniversary=RM38
  • 2009-50th anniversary of Parliament=RM38
  • 2010-KTM 125 years anniversary (Keretapi Tanah Melayu)=RM38
  • 2010-125 years JUPEM=RM38
  • 2011-Malaysia 3rd series coins=RM15
  • 2011-WWF 50th anniversary celebration=RM50

*RM mean Malaysia Ringgit.

I know some Malaysian out there who are afraid to share the real market price of Malaysia coins. They afraid they cannot get the item at a cheaper price next time. In my opinion, when people knew the real price, they will share it with their friends. The price will be going up when everyone start to search for it. You will not lose anything for sharing some information.

Malaysia 1 ringgit coin story

Malaysia 1 ringgit coin story started on 1 May 1971 when a 1 ringgit 1971 introduce in Malaysia for the first time. In that year, 2,378,995 pieces of the coin has been approved for circulation, around 500,000 were minted at London Mint, the rest are minted at Kilang Wang Bank Negara in Shah Alam. This first series of Malaysia 1 ringgit have artistic design with hibiscus (Malaysia National Flower) and a dollar ($1) sign on the Obverse. On the Reverse is the Parliament House over a crescent moon with 14 stars. It has a plain edge with a letters -BANK NEGARA MALAYSIA. It has a diameter of 33.5 mm, weight 16.85 g and have Cupro-nickel composition.

1971 coin

Nowadays, many non collector mistakenly think the 1971 1 ringgit as a very rare coin and sell them at a very ridiculous price but actually you can still get that coin for RM15 a piece. For the old big 1 ringgit, most collectors are looking for other years since the approved mintage are very low. Here are Malaysia 1 ringgit copper-nickel mintage for everyone guide:
  • 1971: 2,378,995
  • 1971: 500 (proof)
  • 1980: 472,095
  • 1981: 764,795
  • 1982: 201,550
  • 1984: 355,472
  • 1985: 301,583
  • 1986: 252,473

On 4 September 1989, a second series of sen coins entered circulation. Bank Negara Malaysia change the design, size and composition of the 1 ringgit coin. The changes include the depiction of items of Malay culture on the obverse, and the inclusion of a Hibiscus rosa-sinensis (Malay: Bunga Raya), the national flower of Malaysia, on the upper half of the reverse. The size of the 1 ringgit coin was also reduced from a diameter of 33 mm to 24 mm, and was minted from an alloy of copper, zinc and tin, as opposed to the first series cupronickel. On the reverse is a Keris with a songket background. On the obverse show a hibiscus (bunga raya) with $1 sign, year of mintage and a letters -BANK NEGARA MALAYSIA. The edge of the coin is reeded. Most collectors called this coin as a 1 ringgit bunga raya 'gold' coin.

$1 coin

On 14 November 1993, RM1 coins bearing the symbol “RINGGIT” were introduced, following the adoption of the ringgit as Malaysia’s currency symbol. The new "1 ringgit" coin has confused many people, some were saying that it is a counterfeit and many shop don't want to take that coins. 

1 ringgit

Here are Malaysia 1 ringgit Copper-zinc-tin mintage list:

  • 1989: 20,409,995
  • 1990: 80,101,998
  • 1991: 169,000,868
  • 1992: 139,041,750
  • 1993: 178,893,810 ($1 and 1 ringgit)
  • 1994: 36,899,026
  • 1995: 132,172,580
  • 1996: 59,460,000

They're many counterfeit 1 ringgit "gold" coins in the market, Bank Negara Malaysia has released a guide before on how to check genuine 1 ringgit coins:
  • The wordings Bank Negara Malaysia are sharp where the fine lines are clearly defined.
  • The symbol either “RINGGIT” or “$” and the numeral “1” are clearly defined.
  • The motif of the hibiscus flower is well embossed where the fine lines are clearly defined.
  • The design and pattern on the sheath of the Keris on the reverse of the coin is clearly defined.
  • The milled edge is clearly defined.

On 7 December 2005, the 1 ringgit coin was demonetised and withdrawn from circulation. This was partly due to problems with standardisation (two different versions of the second series coin were minted) and forgery.

A blogger friend of mine request an article about Malaysia 1 ringgit coin story. He is a Singaporean but love many thing about Malaysia,  remgold from OpEd. He wrote many thing about Malaysia politic nowadays, a good source for non-Malaysian view about what happening in this country.

50 sen 2006

RM5,000 for a single piece of circulated 50 sen 2006? Will you pay that amount of money for Malaysia coins? Have any of you saw Malaysia 50 sen 2006 before? According to Steven Tan book 19,480,000 pieces of the 50 sen has been minted by Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) in 2006 but until today, I don't see a single piece of that coins in circulation or on sale by any of the Malaysia coin dealer. I am not sure about you but look like I had been doing a ghost chase for over 6 years. Some collectors simply stop looking for that coins and say that Steven Tan books had been putting the figure by mistake. They don't want to believe Malaysia stamps and coins sifu wrote his book based on fact provided by BNM.

50 cent 2006

Thanks to Dickson Niew who wrote an article; Yes! 50 sen were minted in 2006, for showing an evidence of a BNM letter to Steven Tan dated 6 May 2010, with an approved mintage quantity of the coins. Look like Steven Tan is just following BNM data that had been given to him. Dickson Niew in his article also question the figure of Malaysia coins "approved mintage quantity"? If you are following his blog, you might understand what he meant. Some of Malaysia coins year of mintage is questionable since you can see plenty of it in the BNM figure but only some pieces can be found in circulations. Most of us believe the coins had been going back into BNM and had been dispose or some collectors had been keeping a large amount of the coins. We never question the figure we see in any of Malaysia Numismatic book.

This coin will be be another ghost chase cases for Malaysia coin collectors. Don't forget, you also need to do a ghost chase for 1988 $1, 50 sen and 20 sen bunga raya coins. All these coins a very rare compare to 10 sen 1971. If you're not a collector and you find any of these coins, you can always contact me via email with your coin pictures. I am not an avid collector of Malaysia coins but I know many of my friends will be willing to pay a high amount of money to keep that coins in their collection. If you're wondering about the coin in the picture, that is just a photoshop coin but I am willing to sell it to you for 50 percent discount if you want. A kind of coin that you cannot keep in your coin holder.

PS: A lot of changes had been happening in blogger world lately. I am closing the comment form for a while until I complete updating my blog. You can always give your comment in my Facebook page.

Malacca Stamp Coin Fair May 2012

Just a short update about an event, Malacca Stamp & Coin Fair is on 19 until 20 May 2012. The event will be held at Malacca Jonker Walk Hainan Associates from 10am until 7pm. For more information about the Malacca Stamp & Coin Fair 2012, you can contact the organizer Boson Goh phone number 016-6691811. No information were given by the organizer about dealers that will be coming on this event but from the previous fair, this is an event that you shouldn't missed if you're from south of Malaysia. All the big time dealers will normally coming to this event.

Coin Fair

Place:
Malacca Jonker Walk Hainan Associates,
115, Jalan Hang Jebat, 75200 Melaka.
Date: 19-20 May 2012

Time: 10am to 7pm.
Sale: coin, banknote, stamp and antiques.
Organizer: Boson Goh (016-6691811)

If any of you have any numismatic event around your place that need some promotion, you can contact me at lunaticg[@]gmail.com.

Frank Goon collection book

A friend message me in Facebook just now, what happened to your tonight I want to cry post? I cannot see any of the proof banknote pictures that I saw in your post before. I reply to him, The Frank Goon collection book by SPINK is limited and rare, you're lucky enough to get a glimpse of what his collection are all about (exactly, you cannot share someone copyright item without a permission. Hahahaha...). Yes.., the 2nd case in the post is this book. It make me want to cry because his collection make me think,Is this possible? Do he really own all these stuff in here? Thank you to Sifu Dickson Niew for helping me to get a copy of this book. It is the most valuable book in my collection, not because of its price (SDG200) because I have other books more expensive then that but it is valuable because of the information and pictures in the book. Its make me drooling looking at all Frank Goon Collection, its like looking at the most sexy and beautiful girls from Malaysia, Singapore and Brunei in one big room.

Frank Goon Collection

Banknotes of British Malaya, The Frank Goon Collection has been launched on 30 March 2012 by Spink at Singapore Coin Fair 2012. The collection in his book has been assembled over a period of 20 years time. The book have 11 chapters, printed on a hard cover and have a 415 pages. Each picture come with at least some information that tell you about that particular banknote or collection. Some of the banknotes are in actual size, it will be stated, "shown actual size". From the book title, most of you will understand the book is all about Banknotes collection of Frank Goon, a prominent Malaysian businessman.

The Book Chapters:
  1. Private banks of the Straits Settlements
  2. Private Issues of Malaya & British Borneo
  3. The Government of the Straits Settlements
  4. Sarawak
  5. British North Borneo
  6. Malaya
  7. Malaya & British Borneo
  8. Bank Negara Tanah Melayu
  9. Malaysia
  10. Singapore
  11. Brunei

The quality of the book is superb, thanks to excellent printing by Gutenberg Press Ltd, Malta. Only 600 copies are printed for worldwide circulation.

In the book you can find superb collection of super extremely rare banknotes. Most of it is essay banknote (a potential design of a new banknote. Very often an essay has no serial numbers) and proof banknote. According to Wikipedia, Proof banknote is printed as a way of checking to see whether or not the design is suitable for putting into full production as a currency issue, as well as part of the process of testing various stages of the printing process of a banknote that has. Proof banknotes may be partial proofs of the obverse or reverse only ("uniface proofs"), or of only pieces of the design, such as the portrait.

Why is it super extremely rare banknotes? 
Have you seen a consecutive pair of green Malaya 1940 1 dollar banknotes? How about brown 1940 10 dollars Malaya banknotes? If you had seen the pictures of Bank Negara Tanah Melayu 1 ringgit (blue color) and 5 ringgit (green color) banknotes, shared by Malaysian friends in Facebook, that exactly is a 1962 Bank Negara Tanah Melayu essay banknote prepared by Thomas De La Rue for Bank Negara Tanah Melayu. Imagine if the banknote design are approved during that time, our Malaysia banknote history maybe start from 1962 not 1967. Most of his Malaysia banknote collections are specimen. He also show some trial color banknote for pink 1 ringgit 1st series banknote, brown 5 ringgit 1st series banknote and blue with purple potrait of sa-ribu ringgit banknote. If the trial banknote has been approved, we maybe will be using a pink color 1 ringgit in our pocket. Hahahaha.... His Malaysia collection banknotes also has proof Malaysia banknote of 1966 (RM1, RM5), 1968 (RM1000) 1976 (RM10, RM50) and 1979 (RM100). Some of it are uniface proof.

Are his collection of trial and proof Malaysia banknotes are the same as what we see in Bank Negara Sasana Kijang?
No, What you see in that museum is just a small collection, I think if you want to display this in that museum, all the other banknotes need to be thrown out and Bank Negara Malaysia need to add another floor to Sasana Kijang. Frank Goon has a very impressive collection of essay and proof banknote from Straits Settlements era until Malaysia era.

Do you know, how much is Frank Goon's collection of rare currency notes worth?
Some people say his collection worth at SGD20 million. I think that is what he pay to get all that banknotes but I think the value will be more if one day he want to auction his collection.

I really wish one day Frank Goon will open his own museum in Malaysia. I am one of his fan that will most probably visit the museum every week, just want to look at his beautiful collection of banknotes. 

PS: Sorry, I am not sharing any pictures of the books in here. You can try Google it.

Micro review:
Banknotes of British Malaya, The Frank Goon Collection Reviewed by lunaticg on Apr 27 . Super extremely rare banknotes. A must have book for all Malaysian banknote collector, Frank Goon collection are super extremely rare banknotes of Straits Settlements until Malaysia era. Rating: 5.0

I am not a collector

Have you read my post yesterday, tonight I want to cry? Look like nobody guess the correct answer, I thought I want to give a free copy of Sa-ribu ringgit banknote to the lucky winner but since nobody give a correct reply.., lucky me. Hahahahaha. Just Joking. For the 1st case, I am sad because every time I found damage coins or banknotes because of mishandling or improper keeping by the original owner, when I asked them why don't you take care your collection, the answer will be, "I am not a collector". If you're not a collector and you read this, please read carefully, "You're not a collector but one day, you need to sell your collection, please learn how to keep your collection properly!" If you're a collector, you must have non-collector friends who you know own a collection, please share this post with them, so they can realize that improper care of coins and banknotes will devalue their collection.

PATA 1986 coins

For the 1st case, you can see a 1986 PATA silver proof coin set of two complete with a box. The box is in a very bad condition, almost all the corner torn, the hinge already have extra sound and you can also see the metal box inside get some rust. The $5 coin already became dull and not shiny. The $1 coin reverse looks OK but the obverse have plenty oxidation spots. Both obverse and reverse of the $5 coin also have many oxidation trace on them. For non-collector, this is nothing, the coin still has some value but for coin collector, if you really know the value of this kind of coin, you will not buy it for your collection.


proof oxidation

oxidation spot

Many non-collector don't know, If any coins that come with a box and a certificate, it must come with a coin, box and certificate to make it a complete set. If that coin don't have a box, it will lose around 15% of the value, add another 15% if it don't have the certificate. Its already 30%, You need to add around 30% if you want to sell it through a dealer (If they want to buy it), You already lose around 60% from a market value. A mistake that you can avoid if you give proper care to your coins or banknotes. Many non-collectors also don't know that a coin box like this are consider as don't have any box since its in bad shape, no collector will want to buy the coin, unless the dealer need to reduce the price for the coins without a box.

For coins in these kind of condition, its already lose its numismatic value, people buy it just for its metal value, minus 30% dealer price. You should not touch your proof coin even with a tweezer! A scratch on a proof coin is like a scratch on your pocket, the big amount of scratch will make you losing a big amount of money. Most collector like to see the original shine of the coin. If your coin already look dull like this and you want to try make it shine, please don't. Cleaned coin will also make the coin price drop. 

Even if you're not a collector, please learn how to properly take care your collection. You pay some amount of money to buy it, its an investment. If you don't properly take care your investment, you will lose your money. You will be lucky if someone want to buy it from you. If not.., every night before going to sleep you will be thinking about profit that you cannot get because you're not collector. I am not a collector is not an excuse, you pay, its your collection before you sell it to other people. Learn how to properly take care your investment or you will regret it one day.

Malaysian Collector Investment mistake

Many Malaysian who want to collect coins and banknotes for investment make a mistakes that will cost them money later. Many young investor contact me and asking me what they should collect, in my opinion, if you want to invest in something, you need to do your own research. Numismatic collecting is not something you can just join and invest, you need to learn what it is all about first. You need to learn about grading, some investor don't even know what is "Uncirculated". They just collect anything that they can find and only realize they're making a big mistake when they want to sell their collection later. Many Malaysian investor believe a shinning coins are brilliant uncirculated coins and can get high price among collectors, without knowing that those are cleaned coins and a real collector will only buy them at a very low price. Some investor learn their mistake, move on and do the right thing, while some investor stop collecting. 

Before you read the rest of this article, make sure you read this first: Investor or Collector?

Investment

Here are list of mistake by Malaysian collector:

1. Believe what Dealer said what to invest.
Many Malaysian collector just believe what any of their trusted dealer said to them what they should collect. For example, I had seen so many times dealer advising collector to collect new replacement notes and claimed it to be rare item. The price will be going up sky high and one day, a bunch of the replacement notes going into the market and the price will be dropping fast. Don't believe your dealer 100%, do your own research before you start investing your money in any collection. Some dealer told you to invest into that particular banknotes and coins just because of profit or they have stock to sell.

2. Don't buy any book for guidance.
In Numismatic collecting, books are the most important thing to collect. You can understand many thing about your investment if you have coins and banknotes books as a guide. For Malaysia collectors, try to get at least Steven Tan or KN Boon books to help you learn about collecting and guide you about the market price. Many collector don't care to invest in numismatic books and start collecting, a mistake that can be avoided for just few ringgit.

3. Don't know when to let go their investment (small/short time investor).
I think this is happened to any small time investor who want to gain some money in collecting. For example, when the New Malaysia banknote Premier set has just been released, many of these small time investor buying the sets because they heard the price are almost double from the release price. They don't know that in Malaysia, the price of the newly released item will be going high for a short period of time since everyone afraid they cannot get it. After certain period of time, the price will be dropping after many other people offering the same items at the same time. You need to know, do you collect it for long term or short term investment. Many newbies who mistakenly bought a lot of the Premier sets feel frustrated and some even sell their sets below their cost.

4. Don't know market value of their investment.
In Numismatic, market value is not just about the item price, you also need to know the grading of the items. The higher the grading/condition of the coins or banknotes, the higher the value. Some collectors don't study market value of their item and make a mistake by buying the items higher then market value. When they want  to sell their collection, it took them longer time to sell because of the high cost. Some collector end up selling their collection below cost because they need the money.

5. They forget about grading, they just collect what they can find.
Many new collector mistakenly buy any rare coins or banknotes that they can find even if the item in Very Good condition and the price are very high. If you want to make sure your investment worth it, only buy Uncirculated condition items or at least Very Fine condition. You can buy item below that condition if the sell price really cheap and will not cost you much. Yes.., it is cool to flash your rare items even though its conditions are just Fine but when you want to sell them later on, it will be difficult because not many people want to buy low grading items at a very high price.

6. Collect what their friends are collecting.
They're also people who want to invest but they just follow what their friends collect. You need to remember, in numismatic, they're always collector and investor. Collector normally collect that items because in their eyes, the coins or banknotes are beautiful not because their value will be going up one day. Some new investor who don't realize that just follow collecting what their friends collect. In the end, they will be wasting their money investing on something that only their friends collect not what other collectors out of their league are collecting. If you want to invest, do some research, what items are worth to invest. Make your friends as a guide, don't just copy what they're collecting.

7. They want rare item but don't want to learn how to check for counterfeit.
In Numismatic, rare items meant they will be counterfeit or fake out there. Many new collectors don't want to invest their time to learn and understand about counterfeit but want to invest in rare items. Some of the items worth thousands of ringgit and it will be a waste of money investing in fake items. Before you start investing in rare coins or banknotes, learn how to check for fake items first. Don't start buying if you still don't understand about counterfeit rare items. It will be cool to show the rare items to newbies but your reputation will be going down to drain if real collector show your "fake" collection. If you mistakenly bought a fake items, don't show it, keep it in a drawer some where.

8. They buy expensive item but don't care where they put it. 
Many collectors don't care where they put their investment. For them, buying the most expensive item in the market already give them save investment. They just put their coins and banknotes in a drawer, on a wall or on their desk. Some Malaysian even laminate their banknotes just to make sure it stay new and looking good. They don't know laminating most of the time will damage the banknotes. If you have investing a lot of money on a banknotes or coins, why don't you invest on a quality coin capsules, coin holder, plastic sleeve for banknote or album for your precious collection? Make sure you invest on a high quality items to protect your investment.

9. Cleaning their coins and banknotes.
Many Malaysian new collectors like to clean their coins and banknotes. If you like your investment, please don't clean them! It will only damage your collection. They maybe look dirty for you today but when you have gain some knowledge in collecting, you will be adoring that dirty coins later. Collecting is not about collecting beautiful shinny coins, cleaned items will lowered your item price. Again, please stop cleaning your coins.

10. Buying cheap item online.
If you're newbies on online buying, please avoid buying rare items at a very cheap price. They're scammer and fraudster out there who are luring buyer with cheap rare item in Mudah.my, Lelong.com or Facebook. Many newbies who look at the cheap price quickly paid the scammer, they only realize it is a scam after few weeks they don't received the items. Buy from a reputable sellers, you can read my post about Top 20 Facebook sellers and Genuine Mudah dealers list as a guide.

Have you done any of the mistake above?

New Malaysia numismatic club 1st meeting

Do you want to visit Giesecke & Devrient, Malaysia banknote printer? On 22 April 2012, new Malaysia numismatic club, Kelab Warisan Numismatik held their 1st meeting at Vistana Hotel, Kuantan. Everyone in Malaysia numismatic community want to see who will be appointed as the committee members of the new club. Dato' Sharuddin has release the committee members list, the club objectives and plan activities for 2012 in his blog sharuddin58.blogspot.com. One of their future activity is to visit Giesecke & Devrient Malaysia Sdn Bhd, Malaysia banknote printer at Subang Hi-tech Industrial Park. For me, it is interesting because I never heard people are allowed to visit that printing company before, they plan to visit Giesecke & Devrient on June 2012. Its just few months away from their plan and the committee must be busy with all the documentation. They also plan to arrange a Malaysia error coin seminar on November 2012.

Numismatic club

Here are the list of the Kelab Warisan Numismatik committee:
President: Dato' Sharuddin Bin Yusof Dimp Amp
Deputy President: Tuan Haji Azmi Bin Abd. Malik
Secretary: Hamdan Bin Abd. Ghani
Treasurer: Tuan Haji Abdul Rahim Bin Othman
Secretary Jobs: Furqan Rabbani Bin Sharuddin

Committee Members :

  • Abdul Rahim Bin Mohammed Said
  • Mansor Bin Jusoh
  • Saidan Nazri Bin Yusof
  • Md. Radzaimi Bin Ab. Rahman
  • Effendy Bin Harun
  • Salleh Bin Mat Tahar
  • Faizal Izwa Bin Nawi
  • Husni Bin Yusof
  • Abdul Rahman Bin Ahmad
  • Silmon Loo
  • Danny Yong Yew Chan
  • Harun Bin Othman


You can also read more about the Malaysia New Numismatic Club at Galeri Sha Banknote to get latest news about the new club.

If you're interested to join the new club, you can sms/email Dato' Sharuddin with your name, address, phone number and Identity Card number at sharuddin58@gmail.com or 019-9185858. You can also contact Hamdan Bin Abd. Ghani at 013-9397888 for registration.

Kelab Warisan Numismatik Address:
No. 3A Kedai 20 Unit Nadikota,
26400 Bandar Jengka,
Pahang Darul Makmur.
Tel : 609-4664270
Fax : 609-4664270

Membership Fee: RM20.00
Membership certificate: RM10.00
Membership Card: RM30.00
Total: RM60.00

Pasar Karat Petaling Street

I am having difficulty about the name of this flea market, is it Jalan Sultan Flea Market or Petaling Street Flea Market? Some people also called this place as a thieves market because they said many stolen item sold at this place. When I told a friend that I want to take pictures at this place, he advice me to be careful. He said that place are full of ah long, taiko and thieves. You cannot simply take picture without asking permission from people there. Maybe that why its a little bit hard to find story about it in any blog. That will be no problem because I always asked for permission when I want to take picture because I want to put it in my blog. I know some people are camera shy and some people don't want to show their face to the world. Every time I do my work, I always try to remember telling people, I am a blogger and will be sharing their story in my blog.

Pasar Karat Petaling Street

Pasar Karat Petaling Street located at the backlane of Petaling Street and not far from Jalan Sultan. It open everyday, started at around 6am and most of the sellers will be gone by 10am. According to Sifu Dickson Niew, at around 9.30am, DBKL (Dewan Bandaraya Kuala Lumpur) will be coming to that place. If they're still selling at the place, DBKL will seized their item. Sifu Dickson also confirm the name "Thieves Market". He said the market has been around for over 10 years and in the early days, the seller there sell in the early morning, just want to avoid police and enforcement. Many of them are theif and selling that stolen item at the flea market. Nowadays, many seller there selling 2nd hand item, some of them recycling old junk thrown by people in the garbage bin. The thieves market name already change to flea market.

thieves market

It will not be hard to find the flea market.., just look for Petaling Street Signboard and you can find it at the back of the street. You can go there by PUTRA LRT (stop at Pasar Seni Station) or by using STAR LRT (stop at Plaza Rakyat Station). If you can find Petaling Street, you can also find this flea market. Just make sure you come early morning because some sellers already gone by 9am. Like any other flea market in Malaysia, the best day to visit is Sunday since all sellers will be there and many buyer are coming on Sunday.

Petaling Street map

I am advising girls to avoid coming to this flea market because it is crowded with guys. Make sure you don't bring any valuable thing or a lots of money because they're many pick pocket around. If you want to bargain, make sure you check your time. Some sellers already gone before 9am. If you want to buy silver coins, please make sure you know how to check for fake coins. Most of the banknotes has been cleaned and some old banknote has been given patch work. You also need to know market price for item that you want to buy. On my visit on 15 April 2012, I found only 5 sellers selling coins and banknotes.

Uncle Chow-Pasar Karat Petaling Street

sa-puloh ringgit

old coins

old 50 ringgit

old 100 ringgit

One of coin and banknote sellers at the market is Uncle Chow, he has a lot of Malaysia old banknotes and give a reasonable price to his customer. To recognize uncle Chow, a friend told me to look for a Chinese guy with a table in the flea market. He is the only one selling coins and banknotes on a table that day. All the other sellers sell their coins and banknotes collection on a ground with other items. You can contact Uncle Chow at 017-6864223. On my visit that day, I saw he is selling old seratus ringgit, Sa-puloh ringgit, 5 and 10 dollars Malaya Queen Elizabeth, Japanese Invasion Money, 1 dollar kapal layar and many more collections. He said you can also contact him if you don't want to come to this flea market. 

Here are some pictures what other sellers are offering that day:

flea market sells

coin books

keris

collectibles glass

old coins of Malaysia

brunei

stone seller

national radio

Jalan Sultan
Many sellers at this place are selling 2nd hand clothes especially jeans. You can also find antique and vintage items here for a bargain. Like this old National radio in the picture, the seller is selling it for RM25. He cannot promise me if the radio is working or not. If he can guarantee it is working, I maybe already grab it. All items are on sell at this market, you just need to look carefully and asked around. 

Have you visit this Pasar Karat before? What item do you look for at this place?

Kelab Warisan Numismatik

Some of my blog readers sms and give me a private message in Facebook regarding new numismatic club that they read in Sinar Harian on 18 April 2012, "Kelab Warisan Numismatik". Most of them are asking about the club membership and contact number of the new club. This is the first time I heard about the club and asked them to give me some time to gather the details of the new club. When I read the article by Sinar Harian, I found out the President is Dato' Sharuddin Yusof, one of my customer from Pahang. He have a blog, Galeri Sha Banknote at sharuddin58.blogspot.com to share his collection to everyone. I email him regarding his new club last night.

Numismatic club

Today, I talk with  Dato' Sharuddin for over one hour about his new numismatic club. His club registered under ROB (Registrar of Business) since 1st April 2012. He register under ROB because the club can skip rules and regulation under ROS (Registrar of Society). The main objective of the club is to gather all Malaysian collectors in a new club. Some of the activities they plan for the new club including numismatic trading between members, numismatic exhibition and numismatic seminar. The Club target audience are all Malaysian collectors who are active online, like Kedai Hantu Duit 2

You will get membership card and certificate after your registration approve. In the future, members will have a chance to meet with Malaysia Numismatic Sifu and Celebrity, you can asked question regarding your collection and authentication of your collection for free. Kelab Warisan Numismatic also put Kilang Wang Bank Negara (BNM Mint) tour as one of their future activities. They will also try to arrange as many exhibitions as they can this year to promote numismatic and as a members gathering place. In the exhibition, beside meeting members, you can also buy and sell numismatic collection. For a start, the club target one big exhibition this year.

Picture by Sha Banknote: Exhibition at Mercu View Resort

Even though the club have not set up yet, he already get some invitation for Numismatic Exhibition in Pahang. On 30 March until 2 April, he join Bank Simpanan Nasional (BSN) programme at Teluk Chempedak, Pahang. He get one booth to share his collection and also sell some of his collection. He also get an invitation by Kuantan Municipal Council to setup an exhibition booth every weekend. He also told me that the Sinar Harian interview is not planned, the reporter coming for other event. Mercu View Resort in Jengka, Pahang invite him to make a numismatic exhibition and the reporter show the exhibition. The reporter interview him and the next day, he saw the article in Sinar Harian.

Sha Banknote
Picture by Sinar Harian: Dato' Sharuddin Yusof

If you're interested to join the new club, you can sms/email  Dato' Sharuddin with your name, address, phone number and Identity Card number at sharuddin58@gmail.com or 019-9185858. You can also go to his blog Galeri Sha Banknote to learn more about the new club. You can also contact Hamdan Bin Abd. Ghani at 013-9397888 for registration.

Kelab Warisan Numismatik Address:
No. 3A Kedai 20 Unit Nadikota,
26400 Bandar Jengka,
Pahang Darul Makmur.
Tel : 609-4664270
Fax : 609-4664270

Membership Fee: RM20.00
Membership certificate: RM10.00
Membership Card: RM30.00
Total: RM60.00


To  Dato' Sharuddin, wish you good luck for the new club. It will need a lot of effort to start a new thing but if you're passionate about it, they're nothing that can stop you from achieving success. Keep on promoting and educating numismatic to all Malaysian.  

Sarawak Museum Antique Permit

On 17 April 2012, The Star share a story about priceless Iban antiques can be found at Quangdong Museum in China. Sarawak Philatelic and Numismatic Society (SPNS) Chairman, John Goh claimed that between 2005 and 2010, curators of museums in China came to Sarawak several times to look for Iban Antiques. They came on social visit passes, traveling to Kapit, Belaga and Kanowit. The Ibans from some of the longhouses in Kanowit told Goh that Tourist from China came to their place and buy Iban Antique. Many people already knew that most of the accessories worn by the Iban (Lampit, Sementing Ringgit & Sementing Buchai) are Silver coins from Straits Settlements, Japanese and also from China. The Chinese paid between RM60 to RM70 a piece of silver coin to the seller. They will detach the coins from the lampit and they will repaired them if it were damaged.

Iban Girl
Picture by The Star-Iban Sarawak Kumang accesories

In the same feature story in The Star, there is a column with a title "Permit neeeded to bring antiques out of Sarawak". A spokesman for Sarawak Museum said any antique items which were to be taken out of the state needed to have an export permit from the museum. He said, the permit facilitates declaration at the airport. Without the permit, customs at the airport in the country of destination would detain the items. If they are contemporary items, no permit is needed. The spokesman said in the case of antique from Iban longhouses, the Museum would not issue any permit if they were genuine items.

I had been traveling to Kuching few times and most of the time when I am traveling, antique shop is a must visit for me. The price of antiques are not cheap in Kuching but some are unique since you cannot find it else where. Sarawak Museum keep on saying to people that if you want to export antique, you need to get special permit but when I visit Kuching, almost all shopkeeper said that they can arrange that. In 2009, one shop even show me an empty letter with letterhead of Sarawak Museum to gain my confidence. Sarawak Museum should put online How people can get the Antique Export Permit, procedure and requirements for the permit, and also fee and relevant charges to obtain the permit. Instead of a "spokesman" replying the story by The Star about Iban Antique coming out of Sarawak without any action by the Sarawak Museum, The Museum Director himself should reply and share with us how many cases of "Customs from other country of destination" detain Sarawak Antique at their airport. 

I had seen birds, Tokay Gecko, Antique Vase, Ivory craft and many other thing has been bring out from this country before. I don't think bring out Iban antique will be a problem since you can just declare it as an accessories or just claim it to be fake since Sarawak Museum said no permit needed for fake item. I don't think any customs officer at any entry point in Sarawak can detect if the coins are real or antique. I even saw some counterfeit coins in Sarawak Museum before. If I want to get an expensive/rare Iban Antiques, why do I need to get a permit from the Museum when they're so many loopholes in Malaysia airport? Sarawak Museum and all Museum in Malaysia should start to take action now. Educate people how important it is to keep National Treasure, our next generation most probably will not see them in the future. Especially if all of them already sold to foreigner.

Source: The Star

Hukum Jual Beli Duit Lama

A friend in facebook asked people opinion in a Facebook group about Hukum Jual Beli Duit Lama (fatwa regarding old money trading). I am not an expert in Islamic Law but I do read many blog and website relating to buying and selling old coins and banknotes. Many Ustaz in Malaysia put buying and selling old banknotes and coins as mubah (harus), as long as that old money is for collection. When you use it to buy other thing, it will be haraam (forbidden) or riba (Prohibitions on interest). Many newbies/non-collector only look at the denomination value of the money, they don't look at the collection value. Some banknote, like Prefix CR RM1 Ali Abul still new and can be use in everyday trading but for collector, it is a very rare item since we cannot easily find that notes in circulation. That mean, the value RM1 on the notes maybe can become RM1000 for collector who want to keep it as his/her collection.

Fatwa jual duit


Here are some view by Islamic Scholars/Ustaz/Ulama:

Dr.Salah Al-Sawy
What is the ruling on buying or selling antique or ancient coins or money at a price higher than its actual printed value, for example, one Egyptian pound from the year 1865 for LE500?

Answer:
When currency has stopped being circulating in the market or people no longer deal with it, the rules for money cease to apply and it becomes merchandise like any other. It can be sold as any other item, for more or for less, upon the mutual satisfaction of both parties, unless it is of gold or silver, in which case it can only be sold on condition that delivery and payment occur simultaneously, according to the saying of the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) in respect to trading the six riba-related commodities (gold, silver, dates, salt, wheat and barley): “So, if these kinds differ, trade them as you like, as long as it is hand over hand [simultaneous exchange].”

Source: Dr.Salah Al-Sawy, amjaonline.com.


Ustaz NorAmin
Saya ada persoalan. Saya merupakan peminat dan pengumpul banknote (duit kertas) dan coin lama dan baru sebagai koleksi. Kemuskilan saya adalah apakah hukum menjual dan membeli duit-duit ini?

Answer:
Menurut pandangan saya yang tidak seberapa ini, orang yang suka mengumpul duit-duit lama sebagai koleksi adalah harus dan duit tersebut tidak lagi mempunyai nilainya seperti waktu ia diperdagangkan. Duit lama tersebut mempunyai nilainya tertentu kerana ia menjadi antik dan sudah pasti harganya melonjak tinggi dari nilai sebenar duit tersebut.

Yang menjadi riba ialah apabila duit itu diperdagangkan dan masih digunakan lagi dalam muamalah negara tersebut. Contohnya kalau orang tersebut membeli duit seringgi dengan nilai seratus ringgit, maka itu menjadi riba disebabkan ada unsur lebihan dalam nilai sebenar duit tersebut.

Masalah beli duit kertas baru yang mempunyai nombor siri menarik dengan harga yang tinggi dari nilai duit tersebut. Di sini saya mempunyai dua jawapan iaitu :

Duit yang mempunyai nombor siri menarik itu dijadikan perhiasan dan koleksi, maka ia menjadi harus, kerana duit itu tidak diperdagangkan untuk jual beli barangan keperluan.

Duit yang mempunyai nombor siri menarik itu dibeli dengan nilai harga yang tinggi dan digunakan dalam jual beli barangan, maka itu menjadi riba kerana ada unsur lebihan di situ. Begitu juga kepada orang yang mula-mulanya berniat untuk menjadikan duit yang mempunyai nombor siri menarik itu sebagai koleksi, tetapi orang tersebut tukar niatnya dan menggunakan duit tersebut untuk diperdagangkan, maka ini menjadi riba dan haram.

Kesimpulannya.
Wang kertas yang lama atau antik dibeli dengan harga yang mahal untuk dijadikan perhiasan adalah harus kerana wang tersebut tiada nilainya lagi dan ia di nilai seperti barangan perhiasan. Harus juga bagi sesiapa yang suka menyimpan duit yang mempunyai no siri yang cantik dan menarik untuk dijadikan perhiasan dan koleksi. Haram dan riba bagi duit yang dijual dengan harga yang mahal untuk tujuan muamalah atau urusan jual beli, kerana disitu terdapat unsur lebihan.

Source: Ustaz NorAmin.

JAKIM
Apakah hukum jika saya jual duit syiling sekitar tahun 60an dan 70an,hasil jual duit tu saya guna untuk bayar hutang dan jalankan perniagaan. Harga dari pembeli mahal hingga ribuan ringgit. Saya cari duit syiling tersebut, ada saya jual sebab perniagaan ni menguntungkan. Modal dari perniagaan duit syiling saya jalankan perniagaan lain pulak. Adakah haram hasil dari jualan duit syiling ni.

Answer:
Harus berurusniaga menjual duit syiling lama sebagaimana yang dimaksudkan selagi mana urusan tersebut tiada unsur-unsur penipuan,penyelewengan.riba dan penindasan.

Source: JAKIM, IslamGrid.gov.my.


Again, I am not the expert in Islamic law, I am just sharing what I read about coin/banknote collection trading in Islam. I am trying to find answer by Ustaz Azhar Idrus (Ustaz Youtube) but I think the link has been deleted in my other PC. Will update it in here if I can found the video again. If you have any other opinion relating this matter, please comment and share with everyone.

PS: Sorry, some words/texts are in Malay, you need to use Google Translate to read this post.

Amcorp Mall Flea Market

Many Malaysian numismatic collectors already knew Amcorp Mall Flea Market as one of a must visit flea market in Malaysia. You can find almost all dealers in Klang Valley on Sunday at the flea market. Many other new flea market try to copy what Amcorp Mall flea market has to offer, some are still operating, while most of it don't get a very good response by collector and closed after few months operating. The flea market in Amcorp Mall exactly focus more on antique, handycraft, souvenir, memorabilia and collectibles but you can still find other item like crafts, toys, books, home decor, homemade food and many other thing in the flea market. If you want to visit this place, it is recommended you go on Sunday since many of the sellers will be there, Amcorp Mall claim they're more then 300 stalls operating and they had started since 1997. The flea market manage by AMG event management on the 1st floor, you can contact them at 03-7956 2999 & 7956 7555.

Amcorp Mall

What is the best time to visit?
Amcorp Mall Flea Market open on weekend starting from 10am until 6pm but if you want to go, I am advising you to visit it on Sunday morning since it will be hard to negotiate with the sellers when many people start to come in to the flea market after 12pm. 


How do you go there?
If you're from KLIA (Kuala Lumpur International Airport) or LCCT (Low Cost Carrier Terminal), the easiest way is to go by taxi and the taxi charges are around RM60. From LCCT, you can also use bus to KL Sentral and it will only cost you RM9.90. From KL Sentral, you can go to Amcorp Mall using Putra LRT train to Taman Jaya station, it will only cost you RM1.60. After you arrive at Taman Jaya LRT station and still cannot figure out where is Amcorp Mall, you can asked anyone in that station. Many Malaysian are willing to help you with the direction.

What you can find at Amcorp Mall Flea Market?
You can find many collectibles especially coins, banknotes, stamps, vinyl records, CD's, old books, old radio's, brass antique and Coke-cola collectibles. Before your visit to this place, I am advice you to study the market price of the item that you want to buy, some items are not cheap but hunting for antique and collectibles are not about the price. If you're looking for that item for so long, even the price is double from the market price, you will want to get them in your collection. On my last visit to Amcorp Mall, I saw a vinyl by The beatles-"A hard day's night", some vinyl collector must have been searching for that records for so long.

Joe Mac

beatles

iron brass

old books

postcards

old stamp

paintings

ultraman

As for coin and banknote collectors, you can find almost everything on Sunday. From numismatic books, coin holder, coin album, banknote album, Straits Settlements coins and also latest Malaysia banknote prefix in this place. As what I always told my readers about Amcorp Mall, you must know the market price first before you come and visit or you will end up in frustration because paying for a high price. Many newbies collector who are just start collecting think that you all item in flea market are cheap, that is not true, you can find cheap item if you know the price of the item you looking for. Most of the dealer at Amcorp Mall flea market don't put their good collection on the table, you need to tell them what you want to find. They will bring it out if they have it for sell.

old coin

Ali Abul

banknotes

I am trying to compile a list of Flea Market sellers, you can read some of it here: